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Re: Gayatri Mantra...
Tue, March 4, 2008 - 10:29 AM> Please check out this out and let me know how much u like it
I didnt like it.
The Gayatri mantra is supposed to be a very strong mantra and not to be toyed with.
Btw, In my community, the mantra is taught by the priest, and whispered to the recipient only during the thread ceremony.
Ofcourse, that tradition is no use today because everyone knows the mantra via tv/web etc.
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Wed, March 5, 2008 - 5:52 AMim with rax as well. didnt like it.
also in my tradition it was whispered in my right ear at the time of my upanayana. and we NEVER say it out loud. it is sacred, and i still chant the 7 vaisnava gayatris everday at the tri sandhyas.
the mantra still has power, but it is a shame that it (the brahma gayatri) has become so "commercial",
scripture also recommends that it be chanted by the twice initiated brahmanas as well. just my opinion tho....
hope i didnt offend.
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Wed, March 5, 2008 - 4:12 AMWell, I liked it. A lot. Thank you for your offering.
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Thu, March 6, 2008 - 4:07 AMDear Jitu i liked it so much .you have done great job to let everry one listen this scared mantra rejecting the relegion and cast which actully not needed at all.who EVER IS CREATED IN UNIVERSE got all right to have every thing which is created by parambrahma....this is first step of vedant and gayatri is a part of it.Thanks again please send more such blogs -
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Thu, March 6, 2008 - 12:59 PMI have to agree. Not all the teachers and gurus are keeping this mantra a secret anymore. According to my boyfriend, who is a practicing Hindu and meditates using the Gayatri Mantra every day, has for years, some of India's teachers have changed their view on keeping this and other mantras secret in the last 20 years or so.
Some of the well known teachers passed away 10 to 20 years ago, and so it has become a time to open up some of the secrets to a wider student base than just the guru/disciple relationship.
My boyfriend's guru taught him the Gayatri Mantra, in the old traditional way, direct teaching from guru to disciple. But he also taught this mantra to many, including women. Traditionally women were not taught the Gayatri Mantra, because, according to my boyfriend's guru, the time when a woman menstruates is a powerful spiritual time, and meditating with the mantra at that time is too much for many women.
But the time has come, according to my boyfriend's guru, that seekers of truth must look to their own inner guidance for the way, as teachers are becoming scarce. We must learn to trust our own inner guru.
There are many avenues to seek truth, beauty, and love. Each one of us can be guided to the sacred wisdoms and techniques that are available to all in these modern times. This is what I believe. -
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Thu, March 6, 2008 - 1:58 PMin our tradition, women were also given the gayatri. it was essential in order to worship the deity correctly :)
and this is going back centuries that the brahmanis (vaisnavi women) were also chanting the gayatris.
indeed there is much power in chanting it.
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Re: Gayatri Mantra...
Thu, March 6, 2008 - 10:39 PM
Isn't it a little hypocritical to believe in the strength of a mantra but not believe in the sanctity of it?
I'm not opposed to anyone learning it or reciting it as they wish.
Your life, do what you like.
Personally, i learnt it via a tv series (a controversial one), by a young female director (Sai Paranjape's daughter?), who used it in the opening intro. Much fuss was made about it, but it aired and it was out there for little kids to quickly pick up, and so I did.
But I also understand that some traditional things are held sacred.
Something even as simple as removing shoes before entering a temple.
Or if I visit a church, trying to avoid the flesh-of-Christ ritual (because i think you need to be baptized before being able to accept it? Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd much rather not break that tradition by accepting and accidentally chewing it, or it getting stuck in my throat etc..oh the horror!)
There's really no point in taking something that I know I'm not meant to.
It loses its meaning.
I respect the human pursuit of knowledge and wanting to know, but I also think that incomplete knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
And sometimes there are correct ways to doing things. I could read a book about strength training and try it at the gym and break a few tendons and come back with a sore back. Or I could get a trainer and learn it the right way.
Anyway, thats a personal view, and probably a little archaic for my generation.
If chanting "om" as a placebo gives me the same benefits, why not just use that?
Or deep breathing.
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Fri, March 7, 2008 - 5:59 AMrax ji ki jai ho.
that was very well said.
i couldnt agree more. and i dont think it is / you are archaic for saying so. i truly believe that was is sacred should remain sacred.
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Fri, March 7, 2008 - 8:00 AMwhat is sacred, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder.
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Fri, March 7, 2008 - 12:21 PMi find this example of traditional ideas being transformed and disseminated through technology and the various ways that technology transmission is thought to be valid or not valid, authentic or not authentic, very interesting.
particularly coming from both indians and a white vaishnava. particularly when one of the indians learned the mantra through technology itself. that plus the typical post-colonial line of being able to appropriate and reinterpret anything at will.
particularly since i can google the gayatri mantra in about two seconds.
what a fascinating conversation.
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Wed, March 19, 2008 - 4:12 PM
Technology is good. Its a construct.
The web/tv/media can't be held responsible for disseminating information just like nuclear energy cant be held responsible for how humans use it.
I learnt the mantra as a child although I was not meant to.
Had I known back then, that I wasn't meant to, would I still learn it?
I think yes. Human curiosity. The need to know what is not known.
We all have it.
I did some research about this mantra a while back (on the web). Most of what I read was that it was now "ok" to use it. There was one reluctant guru who said something like "ok, you really shouldn't, but use it wisely at the right time,place etc".
There's this behavioral aspect to asians (and I think this goes beyond India), where they try to please everybody, all the time. Hindus love it when someone takes their religion seriously, and they'll go out of their way to make it look like their religion is "modern" in some way and all-encompassing and at-par with anything the west can produce. Perhaps an inner inferiority complex that they're trying hard to get rid of.
(Dont know why this is, but if anyone thinks I'm wrong, I'm open to debate it.)
So, i think it is this behavioral aspect thats at the root of why it is "ok" to cross the line now. This might not totally be a bad thing for the religion as such, given that the religion wasn't initially designed to expand and recruit, and so, changing with time is what keeps it alive.
Anyway, a lot of what I post is just me trying to see where I stand on a subject, what I think of it, and what I make of it.
A lot of what I read is opportunity for me to either refine my stance or rethink it, change it, even switch to a better understanding.
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Re: Gayatri Mantra...
Fri, March 14, 2008 - 6:49 AMi used to find this modern western world dealing with mantras rather blasphemical, no i don't really care anymore, e.g. this distribution on utube. maybe i am oldfashioned but i believe that any mantra only unfolds its power when being orally transmitted from an authorised person. Did you read the comments on utube? one person said it is definitely his/her kind of music...So the benefit they have depends on their level of consciousness. If someone is just enjoying him/herself in listening to mantras and single a little bit along, fair enough. if another persons makes the commitment to a guru and regular sadhana and therefore lets the power of the teachings unfold and gradually transform his/her entire being, even better, but personal choice - or good karma. to live and let live...
Love & Light
E.
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Re: Gayatri Mantra...
Fri, March 14, 2008 - 11:08 PMJitu ji it is not necessary to listen mantra from a guru by physical mouth.i refer vigyan bhairav and mahanirvan tantra where it is elabortated in detail about type of diksha and mantra power transmission in a disciple.for example -chakshusi diksha evoke mantra power just by a graceful look of master on disciple, sparsa diksha evokes energy by touch .One can see all these diksha takes help of one or another senses.Another category mentioned is pratibha jyanana which exposes swatantraya (complete independence) in inner and outer surface of conciousness,Sambhavai diksha takes help of MAHAR TATTAVA and results in direct bodha of mantra that is istta dev darsan (vision of diety of particular mantra) in SOMA mandala( nector or full moon state 16 kala)so here disciple even do not need to complete the purascharan of mantra he just get bodha of mantra.The swapana deeksha include vision of mantra in dream with out physical interaction of master.THERE ARE MANY MORE TO TELL now i would like to draw attention toward SUFISM ,here four sect is famous KADARIYA,CHISTIYA(USE MANTRA IN PHYSICAL STATE) NAQSBANDIAYA(USE MANTRA AT PRANIC AND OVERMENTAL STATE) SOHARVARDIA (USES MANTRA AS A VISION LIKE SURIJAN OR MANTRA DRASTA MUNI EXPLAINED IN VED USE TO DO)..........................so mantra is just like mother and she will not mind if you pull her hand OR climb in lap.........OM SHANTI